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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://logicaldisconnect.org/archives/2009/09/18/quitting-doctors/comment-page-1/#comment-47032</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just clarification, I didn&#039;t intend to question her dedication, rather was postulating a possible justification for anger at her by others for quitting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would agree.  In general I would expect people to choose less regulated industries or migrate away from industries as they become more regulated.  This is not based on any sources or studies I&#039;ve read but I suspect numbers are available if someone were to go looking.  Although, I think, you may get a different kind of person migrating into that position.  Politicians instead of physicians.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just clarification, I didn&#8217;t intend to question her dedication, rather was postulating a possible justification for anger at her by others for quitting.</p>

<p>I would agree.  In general I would expect people to choose less regulated industries or migrate away from industries as they become more regulated.  This is not based on any sources or studies I&#8217;ve read but I suspect numbers are available if someone were to go looking.  Although, I think, you may get a different kind of person migrating into that position.  Politicians instead of physicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D</title>
		<link>http://logicaldisconnect.org/archives/2009/09/18/quitting-doctors/comment-page-1/#comment-47031</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kevin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No reason to question her dedication. I guess its always possible for someone to get tired of their career or decide something else is more intersting. However, if people are treating you poorly it sounds it&#039;s probably, at minimum a contributing factor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So based on your supposition, you expect to see a general movement of people away from occupations with the most regulations toward those with less regulations? That&#039;s reasonable and it seems like a testible hypothesis to me; I wonder if there is any data to support it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>

<p>No reason to question her dedication. I guess its always possible for someone to get tired of their career or decide something else is more intersting. However, if people are treating you poorly it sounds it&#8217;s probably, at minimum a contributing factor.</p>

<p>So based on your supposition, you expect to see a general movement of people away from occupations with the most regulations toward those with less regulations? That&#8217;s reasonable and it seems like a testible hypothesis to me; I wonder if there is any data to support it?</p>

<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Steve,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, I suspect they feel entitled somehow to have whatever they want or need.  Granted some people are just jerks and that could explain it but this was a small practice and she would literally spend as long as needed with each family answering questions and explaining her medical judgements.  So it&#039;s not possible to question her dedication to her craft or feel she just grew tired of it.  To feel saddened is one thing.  To feel like you were unjustly wronged is unwarranted and wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I suspect more and more of the better doctors will for various reasons need to flee to other careers or less risky positions.  Those that will flourish under the increasing regulations will be those you don&#039;t want.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>

<p>Yes, I suspect they feel entitled somehow to have whatever they want or need.  Granted some people are just jerks and that could explain it but this was a small practice and she would literally spend as long as needed with each family answering questions and explaining her medical judgements.  So it&#8217;s not possible to question her dedication to her craft or feel she just grew tired of it.  To feel saddened is one thing.  To feel like you were unjustly wronged is unwarranted and wrong.</p>

<p>I suspect more and more of the better doctors will for various reasons need to flee to other careers or less risky positions.  Those that will flourish under the increasing regulations will be those you don&#8217;t want.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D</title>
		<link>http://logicaldisconnect.org/archives/2009/09/18/quitting-doctors/comment-page-1/#comment-47029</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kevin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;I think the idea that makes people think they were right to yell at this woman is very closely related to the idea that makes them think they are right to force the doctors, insurance companies and ultimately their neighbors to provide healthcare under government coercion.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well these people will get what they deserve but it&#039;s too bad that you and your family had to suffer for it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They were screaming at the doctor? As the goverment expands its control, that type of terrible behavior is only going to get more common.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>

<p>&#8220;I think the idea that makes people think they were right to yell at this woman is very closely related to the idea that makes them think they are right to force the doctors, insurance companies and ultimately their neighbors to provide healthcare under government coercion.&#8221;</p>

<p>Well these people will get what they deserve but it&#8217;s too bad that you and your family had to suffer for it.</p>

<p>They were screaming at the doctor? As the goverment expands its control, that type of terrible behavior is only going to get more common.</p>

<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am Kevin&#039;s wife &amp; I did tell her that I totally understood why she was quitting.  If she can&#039;t make money for her family, then she needs to be doing something where she can.  I know her family should be her top priority so while I was disappointed to be losing such a great doctor, I could not be angry at her about it.  I also told her that there was NO way that I would yell at her for this.  I know her level of care &amp; I know that had NOTHING to do with her practice closing.  I was shocked when she said that several parents were screaming at her that day; I could not imagine any rational reason to do such a thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Her response was that while she needs to begin making money for her family (she hasn&#039;t brought in an income from the 2 year old practice at all), she said that she also was concerned with the 300 families that she cares for.  She wanted to be able to bring them/us the highest level of care &amp; is getting to the point where she can&#039;t financially do it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Her main concern was that the community would not totally shut her out, as she lives in the area &amp; her children attend the local schools.  She basically wanted to know if we&#039;d still say hi if we saw her on the street.  With the level of care, kindness &amp; concern that she has given my kids, me &amp; my family in the past 3 years (we saw her at a practice prior to her solo one), she deserves more than a simple hello.  We exchanged personal info &amp; will stay in touch, with me forever hoping that she goes back into pediatric medicine (she&#039;s going to be an er doc in the city) while my kids are young enough.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>

<p>I am Kevin&#8217;s wife &amp; I did tell her that I totally understood why she was quitting.  If she can&#8217;t make money for her family, then she needs to be doing something where she can.  I know her family should be her top priority so while I was disappointed to be losing such a great doctor, I could not be angry at her about it.  I also told her that there was NO way that I would yell at her for this.  I know her level of care &amp; I know that had NOTHING to do with her practice closing.  I was shocked when she said that several parents were screaming at her that day; I could not imagine any rational reason to do such a thing.</p>

<p>Her response was that while she needs to begin making money for her family (she hasn&#8217;t brought in an income from the 2 year old practice at all), she said that she also was concerned with the 300 families that she cares for.  She wanted to be able to bring them/us the highest level of care &amp; is getting to the point where she can&#8217;t financially do it.</p>

<p>Her main concern was that the community would not totally shut her out, as she lives in the area &amp; her children attend the local schools.  She basically wanted to know if we&#8217;d still say hi if we saw her on the street.  With the level of care, kindness &amp; concern that she has given my kids, me &amp; my family in the past 3 years (we saw her at a practice prior to her solo one), she deserves more than a simple hello.  We exchanged personal info &amp; will stay in touch, with me forever hoping that she goes back into pediatric medicine (she&#8217;s going to be an er doc in the city) while my kids are young enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://logicaldisconnect.org/archives/2009/09/18/quitting-doctors/comment-page-1/#comment-47006</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard, I did not, at least not directly.  I did tell her through email that while I was sad to see her leaving her practice, I knew she would do well as she continued her career, based on the excellence she demonstrated to me working with my children.  She told my wife that the message meant a lot to her.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, I did not, at least not directly.  I did tell her through email that while I was sad to see her leaving her practice, I knew she would do well as she continued her career, based on the excellence she demonstrated to me working with my children.  She told my wife that the message meant a lot to her.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just curious did you assure her it was perfectly ok to be quitting under such mounting pressure?  And if so how did she respond?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious did you assure her it was perfectly ok to be quitting under such mounting pressure?  And if so how did she respond?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hsieh</title>
		<link>http://logicaldisconnect.org/archives/2009/09/18/quitting-doctors/comment-page-1/#comment-47004</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hsieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for discussing this issue from the patient&#039;s perspective!  I&#039;ll link to your piece from the FIRM blog.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for discussing this issue from the patient&#8217;s perspective!  I&#8217;ll link to your piece from the FIRM blog.</p>
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